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Where has all the talent gone?
« on: September 04, 2013, 08:57:54 PM »
Is it just me? Or, is there a serious lack of talent in the music industry?

Call me old fashioned, but shouldn't music at least be played by real musicians and sung by people who can actually sing? The majority of pop songs seem like they took five minutes on a computer to create the music.  Singers don't care about their music anymore.  They have Autotune, now.

It might sound like I am picking on pop music, but it is happening in many other places, too.  Metallica started the cookie-cutter recording approach as far back as Ride The Lightning.  Lars Ulrich admitted to never playing through a whole song - that the entire song was spliced together from bits and pieces.  Then people wonder why he sounds like crap live.  So, its not just Kanye!  There are others, too!

Share you thoughts, please.  Do any of you feel the same way?

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Re: Where has all the talent gone?
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2013, 07:04:36 AM »
As the tonal quality and sonic quality of "music" increased w/ technology,  the true quality of the music degraded.
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Re: Where has all the talent gone?
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2013, 07:06:25 AM »
Yeah I'd agree to an extent. I've always said music used to define cultures and be a passion, now it destroys cultures and is a product.

Re: Where has all the talent gone?
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2013, 05:24:10 AM »
No, no, no.

We all know those older people who say that it was so much better in the good old times, don't we? And was it really better back then? Do we think the times before us were better than our times? When we were young?

I don't think so. If you see modern music as such a bad thing it surely means you just cannot relate to contemporary music anymore. I do't most of it either but I don't consider it as worse. There has always been good and bad music, within the mainstream and outside of it.

Just look at the 90s, 80s, 70s, 60s. Full of crap too.

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Re: Where has all the talent gone?
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2013, 08:14:17 AM »
No, no, no.

We all know those older people who say that it was so much better in the good old times, don't we? And was it really better back then? Do we think the times before us were better than our times? When we were young?

I don't think so. If you see modern music as such a bad thing it surely means you just cannot relate to contemporary music anymore. I do't most of it either but I don't consider it as worse. There has always been good and bad music, within the mainstream and outside of it.

Just look at the 90s, 80s, 70s, 60s. Full of crap too.
That's a good perspective on it. I'm sure our kids will look back at the music we liked when we were younger and think exactly the same thing...

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Re: Where has all the talent gone?
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2013, 11:00:42 AM »
There's certainly a lack of talent in the hip hop industry.  I really don't listen to much but for rock and hip hop so I can't speak for the other music genres.  I think that the problem is we're taught to consume more and more as time goes on.  That means people are creating less and less over time.  So you end up with fewer and fewer artists so there are bad artists that are able to rise to the top.  We need to encourage people to create more and consume less. 

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Re: Where has all the talent gone?
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2013, 07:25:28 AM »
NO, you are not alone in this belief. The music industry has come down to marketability and talent has gone straight through the window. One just need to be able to dance and perform or at least try to then they're packaged and sold to us. Very few of the acts are writing about their life experiences- the things that scare them, their hopes and dreams. Back in the day artist wrote from their guts and experiences, it wasn't about making money it was doing what they loved and expressing themselves. This is why in my estimation why music from those era (60s,70s, 80s) have become timeless and is still relevant in what maybe be considered to be our current mediocre music industry.

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Re: Where has all the talent gone?
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2013, 09:29:12 AM »
Completely agree :(
Have you heard "Popular" artists like The Black eyed peas... It's all auto tune these days...
I like me some good vocals backed up by some nice guitar playing.
Everyone's got there own preference and hell, maybe people like the sound of ... computers? but i love the thrill of finding a new artist whose voice mixed with the lyrics of their own songs just goes straight through you. Thrilling.
To be honest just the other day i was listening to a guy called Danny Schmidt, pop him into google if you're interested in spending a couple of minutes listening to an awesome artist.
He made my day :)

Bit off topic but basically, its not all gone, you just have to sift through more crap to get to it (y). :D

Re: Where has all the talent gone?
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2013, 04:53:51 AM »
No, no, no.

We all know those older people who say that it was so much better in the good old times, don't we? And was it really better back then? Do we think the times before us were better than our times? When we were young?

I don't think so. If you see modern music as such a bad thing it surely means you just cannot relate to contemporary music anymore. I do't most of it either but I don't consider it as worse. There has always been good and bad music, within the mainstream and outside of it.

Just look at the 90s, 80s, 70s, 60s. Full of crap too.
That's a good perspective on it. I'm sure our kids will look back at the music we liked when we were younger and think exactly the same thing...

I completely agree with both of you! All the good stuff from the 70s, 80s, 90s, stands out. But you never hear any of the rubbish nowadays(or rarely).

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Re: Where has all the talent gone?
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2013, 06:04:18 PM »
Is it just me? Or, is there a serious lack of talent in the music industry?

Call me old fashioned, but shouldn't music at least be played by real musicians and sung by people who can actually sing? The majority of pop songs seem like they took five minutes on a computer to create the music.  Singers don't care about their music anymore.  They have Autotune, now.

It might sound like I am picking on pop music, but it is happening in many other places, too.  Metallica started the cookie-cutter recording approach as far back as Ride The Lightning.  Lars Ulrich admitted to never playing through a whole song - that the entire song was spliced together from bits and pieces.  Then people wonder why he sounds like crap live.  So, its not just Kanye!  There are others, too!

Share you thoughts, please.  Do any of you feel the same way?

I agree with you. Back in the days, people worked hard on producing their own music. Let it be hip-hop or pop music. They were actually original. Now look at our generation. They have computers to produce beats for them and auto-tune so the computer can sing for them. It's ridiculous!

Re: Where has all the talent gone?
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2013, 02:41:48 PM »
As America is getting more lazy and lazy, musicians are getting more lazy. That is why today's music lacks talent. Talent in music is something that is developed in hard work.

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Re: Where has all the talent gone?
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2013, 09:39:22 AM »
As America is getting more lazy and lazy, musicians are getting more lazy. That is why today's music lacks talent. Talent in music is something that is developed in hard work.

I agree with this. Everyone is getting lazier, thus there is no talent. Talent only comes with hard work and only a handful of people put a lot of work into what they do.

Re: Where has all the talent gone?
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2013, 12:17:30 PM »
As America is getting more lazy and lazy, musicians are getting more lazy. That is why today's music lacks talent. Talent in music is something that is developed in hard work.
Yes, and all the music in the world is from America and therefore every music lacks talent, right?

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Re: Where has all the talent gone?
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2013, 02:58:56 AM »
Everyone who can play an instrument and can sing think that they actually have the talent. Talented people do not even have to study music because it is natural. I just learned how to play but I have friend who is truly talented. Give him any instrument and he can play a tune in the next 10 minutes. He never studied music but he can arrange a full song just by listening to the original. He also makes commercial jingles and sings. It is people like him that we need and not just people who studied how to sing or studied instruments to be able to play them. There are very few with real talent and I know that even I am not one of them.

Re: Where has all the talent gone?
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2013, 04:37:02 AM »
We need people that make commercials? If he has so much talent he should make real music.

There are more ways than just one to get into making music. If I follow your logic all the classical music genies who enjoyed a good education are somehow untalented but I think the had more reasons to think anything like that about modern musicians.