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Record Label vs Independent
« on: April 13, 2013, 06:15:31 AM »
I'm sure that many of us, when we first got into the business of making music, were all hoping that a record label would hear our stuff and sign us, right? If not, well that was my goal from the very beginning. I started creating music by accident, and purely for the enjoyment of it, but then when I left school and discovered that a 9 to 5 job would be my absolute nightmare, I told myself that I was going to get signed and that music was going to provide me with my income.

Then as I learned more about how everything worked in this industry, I began to think that it was best that I had been rejected by a few labels, because labels tend to take most of your money and stilt your creative flow. So my question is, what is your take on it; should an artist seek out a label or try to make it on their own?

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Re: Record Label vs Independent
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2013, 11:18:21 AM »
Record labels have the type of resources, namely $$$, and connections to make a talentless person famous overnight. If you can get in with a big label and play your cards right then you could be set for the rest of your life. Even getting in with indie labels is ideal for an artist or producer that just can't seem to get the exposure they need and start their career. I'm not sure how ideal it is to try and make it by yourself in the music industry for most people, but it has been done in several rare cases. I'd aim for the label myself.
   

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Re: Record Label vs Independent
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2013, 09:11:34 PM »
I prefer going indie these days. Record labels are the ones really just getting all the money from their artists. The get like 70% of the profit while they sit and there and wait for royalties.

Re: Record Label vs Independent
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2013, 04:15:17 AM »
Diprod, I identify the most with your response. I work really hard when I make a song. Sure, it's a lot of fun and I really enjoy the entire process of creating music, no matter how arduous it may be sometimes. Because of that, I want all of the royalties for MY music. Record labels rape artists for their talents, only giving them 30% of the profits, when they should be the ones getting the lesser part of the deal in my opinion. It's not fair, but then look at Deadmau5. I know I mention him several times on this forum but he was a bedroom producer much like myself, sent his stuff in to Pete Tong's radio station, Pete Tong liked his music and helped Deadmau5 to blow up. Now Deadmau5 has his very own record label, Mau5trap Recordings. It's rare but it is possible.

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Re: Record Label vs Independent
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2013, 05:22:52 PM »
Problem with labels is they hardly exist anymore. Other than a few like Young Money and most of the famous veteran labels like Sony. Labels for the most part though have taken a backseat to indie acts who use street teams to get the word out about their projects. They do their own promotion, and make and get to keep more money because they are their own hype-man.

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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2013, 01:34:11 AM »
Problem with labels is they hardly exist anymore. Other than a few like Young Money and most of the famous veteran labels like Sony. Labels for the most part though have taken a backseat to indie acts who use street teams to get the word out about their projects. They do their own promotion, and make and get to keep more money because they are their own hype-man.

I think it depends which genre of music you make and what sort of musical act you are as it pertains to genre. Indie bands, yeah, most of those guys do their own promotion and kind of become their own label, but we don't really hear much from them. Most of the indie bands are signed to large record labels, and that's the only reason we know them, because half of the time the indie indie bands who kind of are their own label - their music is a lot better than those who are signed. Unless you are like The Faols. They got famous off of a televised music competition over her in the UK, but even they probably are signed to a major label now.

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Re: Record Label vs Independent
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2013, 10:58:29 AM »
But how many acts have been destroyed by labels? Who thought 4 girls in a group should be a solo artist or two girls instead? Or take Pink for example. Her old label said she should've been an R&B singer like Alicia Keys. Hence her first single There You Go. But Pink decided to drop them and become a Punk/Rock/Alternative musician instead. Thus she had to move to a new label. Now she's big enough to promote without a label.

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Re: Record Label vs Independent
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2013, 11:18:32 AM »
I think if you're careful as an artist or producer about what you end up signing in terms of a contract, you can still gain the benefits of a record label while minimalizing the risk involved and their influence over your work. Unfortunately they don't always offer the most negotiable terms, and make it as confusing as possible to the point that a regular person couldn't understand the contract - and let's face it, most musicians and artists aren't lawyers - So hiring legal representation to help guide you and protect you might be the best way to approach a deal. Lawyers in the music business aren't cheap but if you are about to sign a deal with a record label most likely it'll be worth the investment and easily recouped in the end.

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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2013, 04:02:56 AM »
But how many acts have been destroyed by labels? Who thought 4 girls in a group should be a solo artist or two girls instead? Or take Pink for example. Her old label said she should've been an R&B singer like Alicia Keys. Hence her first single There You Go. But Pink decided to drop them and become a Punk/Rock/Alternative musician instead. Thus she had to move to a new label. Now she's big enough to promote without a label.

That first RnB album that Pink put out gave me everything though. It was a really good record and RnB really isn't my thing. It's so hard to imagine her singing that kind of music now, especially with how she rocks out, and after she let everyone know that the first label forced her into RnB, but she just sang that genre of music so damn well. I wished she had liked the first genre. I would have liked to have seen where she would have ended up. That first album was amazing.

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Re: Record Label vs Independent
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2013, 08:54:35 PM »
But how many acts have been destroyed by labels? Who thought 4 girls in a group should be a solo artist or two girls instead? Or take Pink for example. Her old label said she should've been an R&B singer like Alicia Keys. Hence her first single There You Go. But Pink decided to drop them and become a Punk/Rock/Alternative musician instead. Thus she had to move to a new label. Now she's big enough to promote without a label.

That first RnB album that Pink put out gave me everything though. It was a really good record and RnB really isn't my thing. It's so hard to imagine her singing that kind of music now, especially with how she rocks out, and after she let everyone know that the first label forced her into RnB, but she just sang that genre of music so damn well. I wished she had liked the first genre. I would have liked to have seen where she would have ended up. That first album was amazing.



Yeah it was a good song, her first single. I remember playing it a lot during the Summer of the year it came out. I think she could've been good in RnB but in the end, she wanted to rock so she decided to do the Punk thing. But at least her songs have some deep messages. Like Stupid Girl for example.

Re: Record Label vs Independent
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2013, 04:35:30 AM »
But how many acts have been destroyed by labels? Who thought 4 girls in a group should be a solo artist or two girls instead? Or take Pink for example. Her old label said she should've been an R&B singer like Alicia Keys. Hence her first single There You Go. But Pink decided to drop them and become a Punk/Rock/Alternative musician instead. Thus she had to move to a new label. Now she's big enough to promote without a label.

Yes, I agree. Don't get me wrong at all, although she made the switch to rock and punk music, that's not to say that I don't still vibe with some of her songs. I still too. A lot of her punk/rock songs are right up my alley :)

But with any artists, there are songs from her rock and punk transition that I thought really sucked, but you're not going to like every song that an artist puts out there are you? God is a DJ is an epic song, and has a really beautiful and profound message. Nice song too as far as melodies go.
That first RnB album that Pink put out gave me everything though. It was a really good record and RnB really isn't my thing. It's so hard to imagine her singing that kind of music now, especially with how she rocks out, and after she let everyone know that the first label forced her into RnB, but she just sang that genre of music so damn well. I wished she had liked the first genre. I would have liked to have seen where she would have ended up. That first album was amazing.



Yeah it was a good song, her first single. I remember playing it a lot during the Summer of the year it came out. I think she could've been good in RnB but in the end, she wanted to rock so she decided to do the Punk thing. But at least her songs have some deep messages. Like Stupid Girl for example.